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What are the chances of getting the description of the object you saw over the ocean on the

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30th?

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I'll give you a good description of it.

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Okay, fine.

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We were tacking west.

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A tuna fishing appeared right over my port pole.

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It was just like a tripod, you know, that you had a telescope on it.

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Yes.

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And from being around airplanes and stuff like that, I would say that the thickness of

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it at the forward end would be about 20 feet and it was about three times that long.

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I see.

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And there was no wings or tail or wheels or nothing else on it.

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It was just, oh, a lot of guys say they look like a saucer but they really don't.

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And I think that was a leading end to them.

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Would this in any way resemble a cigar?

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No, no, no.

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It was cylindrical in shape.

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I see.

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It was thicker on the forward end.

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And that's the end that it took off from.

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Like that would be the end that they were running it from.

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I see.

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It wasn't truly a saucer as you would think of a saucer.

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Yes.

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It looked, well, kind of, if you laid a long raindrop on its side, you know.

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Oh, you're talking about an oval shape then.

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Well, it would be oval but it was longer than it was high and it had a kind of a, the direction

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that it took off to that end of the body or object was thicker than the other part.

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I see.

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That would be the bow of it then.

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That would be the bow of it.

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Right.

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Right.

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We watched it stay motionless for a good three or four minutes before it took off.

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And another boat that was coming out that morning too, they observed it too.

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And there was, it was a charter boat and about half of the crew, there was about ten people

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on the boat that saw it at the same time.

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I see.

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And I asked the next day, I called him because I knew he was out and I asked him if he was

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looking in the west about that time of the morning and he said, yeah, I'm not nuts.

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He says, I know what you're talking about.

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So we went ahead and discussed it for a minute or two on the air there and I asked him when

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he told me how many people had seen it.

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You know, they watched it and it just took off and it shot.

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And then another tuna boat came back on the air and said that he had observed it too.

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And he was about ten miles below us.

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I see.

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I talked when I came in, I was out for three days and when I came in, a couple other tuna

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boats, kippers came and talked to me and they said that they had observed it.

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And from all the plodding that I could take in Loran bearings, we had people looking at

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it from about a ten-mile semi-circle.

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I see.

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And nobody could see any tails or had their wings or anything on it.

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No protrusions at all.

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No protrusions at all.

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No, it was just an oval shaped longer than it was tall.

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Yes.

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How about the color?

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It was just a silver color.

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No, it didn't have any flashing lights or anything like that on it.

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You hear these guys say flashing lights and all that.

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No.

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It just looked like it took the body of a big plane and pulled all the wings up and off,

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you know, and it snubbed her down a little bit on the tail surfaces and shortened her up.

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Now when this took off, did it take off in a horizontal flight to the path?

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Or did it move upward?

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It moved off a little bit to horizontal and then it just shot right straight up in the air.

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Perfect vertical climb?

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Okay.

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But how long would you say it took to leave your site?

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Well, I turned it on and landed a tuna fish.

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And to throw a tuna fish in with a short line takes about, oh, not more than a minute.

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And we all looked back and that butter was gone.

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It just disappeared.

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Now Frank, he watched it the full time and he watched its full takeoff.

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And he said that that thing just shoop and was gone.

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He said it didn't leave any vapor current around.

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And I just saw it start to go when I turned it on and grabbed the line and threw a tuna board.

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Do you have any estimate of how far away it was from you?

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Well, I would say it was not more than, oh, look at the angle.

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I'd say it was an elevation of around 2,000 feet.

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And it wasn't any more than two miles from us.

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I see.

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And that was in the western sky.

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Okay.

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Now when you first spotted this, did you just have to look up into the sky?

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Did this thing appear to just suddenly appear to you?

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Oh, I just looked up across the pole to see if anything was bouncing on there.

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It was sitting right above the poles.

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Now I talked to one of these tuna skippers told me that last year they were out there.

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And I was really insane about it.

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There were three of them up here.

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And while they were there, they had no radio communication.

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I see.

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And it was about the same time last year, there were three of them.

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And everybody out there thought their dang radio was one.

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Hey, why are you no one was Custon's North and pretty soon everybody's radio started working when they come off.

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Well, this is very common.

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And I noticed that in, I got this questionnaire from the other center to answer.

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And I noticed in there that they had the electrical interference.

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Right.

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Right.

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This is quite common, especially with vehicles.

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What is the name of your boat?

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Irene B.

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Irene B.

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About what time was that object seen?

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About a quarter of eight.

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And how about the weather?

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All beautiful.

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Blue sky.

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Yeah, beautiful blue sky.

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There's no overcast or nothing.

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It was just a fantastic morning as far as weather is concerned.

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Anyone think they could take a picture?

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Well, we didn't have a camera board.

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Oh, be done.

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So I don't know whether any of the other boats took a picture or not.

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I could have Frank check with the other boats and see if any of the skippers did take a picture of it.

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That would be great.

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He's going to, he's out to a picture now.

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But when he comes back in, I'll check with him and see if he'll ask.

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I'm not the boys out there.

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I'm too far away to reach them by their low range on their radios.

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Yes.

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Unless you're out there where you can't pick them up.

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Well, Paul, do you work that area a year around?

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Oh, no.

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No, I'm just out there in the fall to an efficient summer and fall situation.

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I see.

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Uh-huh.

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If we send you a questionnaire, will you fill ours in also?

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Sure, we have to.

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And we'd appreciate to the names of as many witnesses or the other skippers that we could get also.

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Okay.

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My wife said she gave you a walk address.

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Yes.

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And he was in the cabin there doing some abortion dishes.

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And Franklin on the TP3, contact him.

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He would have a list of the people that was on board that day.

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Right.

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And there'd probably be 10, at least 10 witnesses there.

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And I'm going to have to scratch my head and see if I can remember which boats was which now that came in and talked to me about it.

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Uh-huh.

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But you know the funny part of it is nobody will say anything about the dancing.

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And somebody does say it, well, then they'll all come forward.

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That's right.

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It just takes one to trigger the whole thing.

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Rest up.

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They're going to keep their mouth shut.

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They think you're nuts, you know.

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All right.

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That's even that condition is beginning to change.

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What is your address?

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Westport, Washington.

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While you're talking about this, when I went to the police station here in Westport to find out where I could report it or do something about it, the deputy here saw one just a short time before that and they didn't make a reporting of it.

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Well, it was the same day?

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No.

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Well, this...

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Earlier, earlier before that.

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I see.

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I understand.

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I'm talking to the police chief down here that one of the deputies had seen one in the morning.

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And they just didn't do anything about it.

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Nice.

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And you report.

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That's really too bad because it's these kind of reports that are really important in our investigation and research program.

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Well, when I went in the HESCA, they said, yeah, we got something around here someplace and they had to look the whole damn office over to find out where to make their calls and contact.

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Uh-huh.

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And I thought that was pretty lousy because...

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I know you're supposed to report this stuff.

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Yes, because I can remember sending them brochures.

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We sent them to all the law enforcement agencies.

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Yeah.

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Well, they finally found it.

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That's great.

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Well, we sure appreciate you're giving us your time and describing this and just how you saw this object.

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Well, okay.

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Let me ask you the questions first.

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Okay, sure.

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Your organization.

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Is this a private organization?

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Very definitely, yes.

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Where do you get your information from?

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And as far as my name, phone number and so on.

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Okay, we've originally picked the story up from a newspaper article in the Aberdeen Daily World.

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Okay.

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And we contacted the Westport Police Department and we got the name of the...

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and telephone number is Paul Savage and also Frank Anderson.

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Right.

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And I believe the lady at the police department gave us the name of your brother and he in turn gave us your name and telephone number.

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No, that's very true.

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No, I was just curious.

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Uh-huh.

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It's an honest question.

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Sure.

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It's good that you testimony of as many witnesses as possible on this particular incident.

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No, this is fine.

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It's very sketchy.

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I can tell you what I observed and, you know, I don't have any strong feelings one way or the other.

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I feel it's possible.

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Understand it?

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So, and like I say, it was probably about around 80s in the morning, I believe.

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I don't know if it was a problem for you, but that's my recollection.

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And now what do you need to know?

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What we want to know is just, we want to get a complete description of how you saw the object and also important here is we're trying to find out how many people actually saw the object leave.

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Well, this is something that none of us on Paul's boat saw and I'm sure it's been explained to you by both Paul and my brother Walt, other brother.

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He was in the cabin.

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He didn't say that.

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Uh-huh.

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Paul brought this to my attention.

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We were just mowing around, trolling, you know, and he looked up, or he says, what's that up there?

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And I said, oh, I don't know.

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And, but whatever it was, was dead still.

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And this is a clear blue sky blue at night.

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Because it was a beautiful day.

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And it was bright in the parents.

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And he didn't move.

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Yes.

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And he doesn't sure that was his plane.

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And that's his idea.

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And I suppose, and I'm guessing here again too, we might have looked at it for a minute, minute and a half, two minutes.

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And my brother Walt come over and he might have been looking at it for about 30 seconds.

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And at that time, we got a fish on.

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I see.

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So everybody diverted their attention to this.

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And there again, I would say the last time, but probably the two minutes at the most.

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I don't give a two in the fish, you know?

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No, I haven't.

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But anyway, hand line the man.

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Right.

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Uh, and maybe I'm minimizing that a little bit.

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It might have been two, three minutes.

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But after we got on board, look back around and it was gone.

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Now as far as leading goes, I didn't see it.

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And I'm sure Paul didn't see it.

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And our Walt.

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Of course.

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But it was impossible.

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And to our two-flying thinking that anything could despair that quick.

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All right.

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Okay.

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Now how would you describe the shape of this thing?

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Well, I would say, you know, a polywog looks like.

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Yes.

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Like that.

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I see.

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It was tapered that much towards the end.

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Yeah.

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I see.

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Okay.

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In proportion.

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Yes.

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What's the color?

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Color, it was not bright.

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Not, well, I'm hard to explain.

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I'd say a dim sunlight.

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Uh-huh.

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And maybe having a shadow around it.

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Just a, you know, a dimmer shadow around it.

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Or a heat.

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I can put it that way.

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Yes.

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That was my impression.

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Would you say that the object of the alley, just from as you observed it?

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Uh, I would.

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No, I couldn't say that.

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You didn't see any sun flashes off of it then?

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No, there was no flash.

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No, I couldn't say.

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Okay.

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And you figured it was in, you observed it from one to two minutes at least.

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Yes, and I'm guessing.

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Yes.

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Your mind has done other things and it's something that, you know, you're not even thinking about.

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Right.

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Yes.

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And you don't really realize or you're not functioning properly as far as observing.

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You know, you see something.

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Yeah, it's there.

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Right?

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Right.

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But the thing that got me when we turned around was gone.

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And you're talking about a clear day and no obstruction whatsoever as far as haze or fog or anything.

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I think Paul made the comment, there's no way in hell, a plane or anything else, to get out of sight, out of sight that quick.

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Yes.

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That you wouldn't see it on the right.

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Right.

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And I agree.

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Okay.

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And what was your name?

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Bob Gribble.

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Bob Gribble?

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Gribble, yes, G-R-I-B-B-L-A.

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Okay.

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Can I ask you a question, Bob?

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Sure.

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How much information do you get over a period of time, say, in a two-three months period along these lines?

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Well, this year it's been very busy, especially for the Pacific Northwest.

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We've had quiet years when we get practically nothing now.

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I think right now we're averaging about, let's say, probably 20...